tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post2639985534881563580..comments2024-02-09T08:07:26.090-08:00Comments on Dodgy At Best: Netherlands 3-2 Uruguay. Instant Analysis: Healthy Doses of Luck & Precision Send Dutch To World Cup FinalKanuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-61777955049059180472010-07-07T10:52:19.659-07:002010-07-07T10:52:19.659-07:00There's a difference between being screened an...There's a difference between being screened and being screened by a player in the offside position. Consider if that's allowed, teams could literally have one player do nothing but stand face-to-face against the keeper. He won't turn around so he's never involved in the play. I've no idea if it's a sound strategy, but there shouldn't be a loophole in the rule that allows that.moinllieonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07298004154870092764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-15562657385545911252010-07-07T09:08:58.249-07:002010-07-07T09:08:58.249-07:00Mario-
So every instance where the goalkeeper'...Mario-<br /><br />So every instance where the goalkeeper's view is obstructed is automatically offside? It sounds like that is where your line of argument leads, and I'm not willing to go there. Just like in hockey, soccer goalkeepers are "screened" (view blocked) all the time. What you are saying is that goals resulting from the goalkeeper's view of the shot being impaired would all be disallowed. And what if the attackers were all onside but the goalkeepers vision was impaired by an attacking player- what then?Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-68457789345914345392010-07-07T05:49:15.065-07:002010-07-07T05:49:15.065-07:00I disagree with your impression about the van Pers...I disagree with your impression about the van Persie offside.<br /><br />From FIFA:<br />"What does interfering with an opponent mean? The International Football Association Board defines it as - preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements,"<br /><br />Van Persie was clearly obstructing the goalie's line of vision. OFFSIDE.marionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-54890578794593726412010-07-06T23:27:09.856-07:002010-07-06T23:27:09.856-07:00Just at the replay of the first goal, Eric.
The ...Just at the replay of the first goal, Eric. <br /><br />The Uruguayan was definitely going for the ball as it was being crossed and MvB went after the Uruguayan rather than the ball. The Ref did see it but told the player to get back up if you see from his hand gestures.<br /><br /> In his mind this was a good challenge on the ball? That is a load of bullcrap. I knew the Dutch would win this game, but not like this. They played very unsportsmanlike and I hope Spain or Germany give them what they need right now, a major asswhooping.Maurynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-48194369743353337962010-07-06T18:43:15.370-07:002010-07-06T18:43:15.370-07:00Thanks for stopping by Eric! I'm so impressed ...Thanks for stopping by Eric! I'm so impressed that you were able to figure out what a big ManU fan I am after being on this site only a few minutes- so perceptive! <br /><br />And thank you for making my point for me again, that ESPN can roll back the tape and show celebrations *post game* as you so smartly stated, but not during the actual telecast. Thank you for saving the other readers from my idiocy by restating the exact point that I made. <br /><br />Please come back often and continue to honor us with your extensive wisdom. Have a great day!Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-53082745948363264102010-07-06T18:35:37.264-07:002010-07-06T18:35:37.264-07:00They don't control the official game feed, so ...They don't control the official game feed, so they couldn't just have their production team in the truck cut to those videos as desired. The only way you'll see such shots tomorrow or in the final is if the official feed sent out to the world by FIFA incorporate it themselves. Not likely. <br /><br /><br />- pretty sure anyone with a feed can roll the tape back post game and make a replay. again, you're an idiot. keep up the good workUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631301777036687061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-74667993040772069172010-07-06T18:31:50.879-07:002010-07-06T18:31:50.879-07:00you must be a man u fan. that angry at mvb killing...you must be a man u fan. that angry at mvb killing you in the CLUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631301777036687061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-52641034281682347742010-07-06T18:01:22.607-07:002010-07-06T18:01:22.607-07:00Anon 5.09.00 pm pdt-
Do you have video of the lon...Anon 5.09.00 pm pdt-<br /><br />Do you have video of the longer replay you describe? If so, please post it. All that is on YouTube right now is 3 different iterations of the 19 second one. I look forward to watching this tonight when they match is replayed.<br /><br />Moreover, my point is not that the Dutch were undeserved winners, simply that what for me is the main talking point of the match, which would have *massively* changed the game, 1) went unseen and more importantly 2) is largely being ignored by the world mainstream media. I'm just trying to point out a major factor in the game that seems to be falling through the cracks. As I stated in the article, the Dutch overall played better and are likely deserved winners.Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-80124368443156702562010-07-06T17:09:22.817-07:002010-07-06T17:09:22.817-07:00If you look at a slightly longer version of the pl...If you look at a slightly longer version of the play you can clearly see the Uruguay defenseman coming in and attempting to take out Van Bommel who, due to his much larger size, was able to stay upright. This was a foul on both players and therefor was not called by the referee. Either way, the Dutch greatly outplayed Uruguay by holding possession for longer, managing more shot on goal, and more corners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-87802074167992629832010-07-06T15:58:13.309-07:002010-07-06T15:58:13.309-07:00FIFA wants the bigger teams to win, holland were f...FIFA wants the bigger teams to win, holland were favored throughout the game, all those little decisions add up, and at the end change the outcome of a game. Van Bommel is a criminal, he should have been red carded against brazil and now again against uruguay, holland could barely beat a second string uruguay side, considering suarez, and lugano two of their key players were out. Also how badly did paraguay get cheated against Spain, with Valdez's goal that wasn't charged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-45299545796053393002010-07-06T15:39:35.702-07:002010-07-06T15:39:35.702-07:00Uruguay has the reputation of being a chippy, almo...Uruguay has the reputation of being a chippy, almost dirty, team. But today it was the Netherlands who dished out the wide majority of elbows, clutches, grabs and ruthless cleat-first fouls. Credit to La Celeste for manning up rather than diving and rolling around like harpooned seals ala Italy, Ghana, Spain, Portugal, Mexico and countless other teams in this WC. <br /><br />The one goal definitely was offside when taking the ruling literally.Not crazy offside like the missed Tevex call, but offside is offside. He made an attempt at the ball. Period. Raise the flag and blow the whistle. <br /><br />I still think the Dutch were slightly better on the day, but without the missed calls this could have been an even better match.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com