tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post117013422098253164..comments2024-02-09T08:07:26.090-08:00Comments on Dodgy At Best: Weekend Review: All Over The Place EditionKanuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170298467338434512007-01-31T18:54:00.000-08:002007-01-31T18:54:00.000-08:00Patrick Thistle fo shizzle.Patrick Thistle fo shizzle.Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170295221158706902007-01-31T18:00:00.000-08:002007-01-31T18:00:00.000-08:00fair comment.if it i names you like, go a league l...fair comment.<BR/><BR/>if it i names you like, go a league lower and you get queen of south fc and my beloved and fantastically named partick thistle fc (to borrow from billy connoly, often thought to be really named partick thistle nil)<BR/><BR/>useless triva - scotland has in st. jonstone, britain's only senior side with a "j" in their name, and in inverness caledonian thistle, the longest name of any senior side in britain. almost makes up for the sub-standard football. almostAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170294367017347932007-01-31T17:46:00.000-08:002007-01-31T17:46:00.000-08:00Funny- I have nothing against the SPL, but I think...Funny- I have nothing against the SPL, but I think that I like listening to Bobbeh on FSC talk about the SPL in his crazy Scottish/Canuck accent more than I do the SPL itself.<BR/><BR/>The names of the clubs in the SPL are 2nd to none though - outside the big 2 & hearts they all sounds so obscure and badass.Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170291859886865622007-01-31T17:04:00.000-08:002007-01-31T17:04:00.000-08:00without delving too much into scottish history, th...without delving too much into scottish history, that's a yes and a sort of.<BR/><BR/>any perception of class distinction likely comes from celtic fans seeing the scottish footballing establishment (as a reflection of the greater scottish establishment, ie protestant) as being biased against them in favor of rangers. <BR/><BR/>that said, celtic were founded as a charitable institution for the poor by a priest but were funded by local catholic businessmen with extra cash which was used to poach players from the O.G. catholic team from edinburgh, hibernian. <BR/><BR/>so just to make it longer, i see where you were going with it and arguably you could be right to draw a Boca/River Plate connection(common man v. establishment)...a stretch though. boca and river plate are second teams to people through out the country. whereas in scotland you either support one of the gruesome twosome or you don't. there is no connected second team loyalty being tied to class (or even religion for that matter). <BR/><BR/>i'm rambling. sorry.<BR/><BR/>just nice to see someone take at least a minor interest in some aspect of the dinky league i follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170270250677004042007-01-31T11:04:00.000-08:002007-01-31T11:04:00.000-08:00I read somewhere, I think it was "Football Against...I read somewhere, I think it was "Football Against the Enemy", that said something to the effect of, over most of their history, the Catholics, especially in Scotland, have been poorer than the Protestants. So that's kind of where I was going with that. It's a pretty stretch, I admit, but it couldn't have helped the situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170192200112930752007-01-30T13:23:00.000-08:002007-01-30T13:23:00.000-08:00the violence of the old firm rivalry is worsened b...the violence of the old firm rivalry is worsened by acts sectarian violence outside of football. football is the convenient excuse.<BR/><BR/>aberdeen/rangers - people outside of glasgow hate glasgow. aberdeen are the only club outside of the old firm to never get relegated, so they see themselves as rightful challengers, but always fail. <BR/><BR/>anyway, ian durrant was only going to drink his talent away as it was.<BR/><BR/>the old firm is filled with sanctimony, each side claiming the other is worse. i found it cute that in that article a rangers fan talks of how atrocious it is that aberdeen fans sing about injuring a player when his side regularly sings songs about being knee high in fenian blood. charming.<BR/><BR/>quick question to moin, though...where are you getting the class warfare in the rangers/celtic rivalry? they're both heavily historically working class clubs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170182547512530302007-01-30T10:42:00.000-08:002007-01-30T10:42:00.000-08:00I have a subscription.I have to admit though, that...I have a subscription.<BR/><BR/>I have to admit though, that song that Aberdeen fans sings about the injured Ranger player is both unquestionably offensive and incredibly funny. The perfect rivalry sing-along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170175203412578832007-01-30T08:40:00.000-08:002007-01-30T08:40:00.000-08:00That link didn't work; here it is:http://www.fourf...That link didn't work; here it is:<BR/><BR/>http://www.fourfourtwo.premiumtv.co.uk/<BR/>page/BigRead/0,,11442~944878,00.htmlKanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170175098798010512007-01-30T08:38:00.000-08:002007-01-30T08:38:00.000-08:00Yeah, that Aberdeen-Rangers situation is nutty - I...Yeah, that Aberdeen-Rangers situation is nutty - I just read a good article outlining the history of that one on Four Four Two:<BR/><BR/>http://www.fourfourtwo.premiumtv.co.uk/page/BigRead/0,,11442~944878,00.html<BR/><BR/>It's a very good read.Kanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959256951835399304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25555967.post-1170161001727213442007-01-30T04:43:00.000-08:002007-01-30T04:43:00.000-08:00I still think Celtic-Rangers are worse, because it...I still think Celtic-Rangers are worse, because it has the class warfare and the mutual success of Boca-River Plate, but it also has the nationalistic undertones of Barca-Real Madrid or Athletic-Real Madrid due to the massive influx of Irish fans (on both sides) to the derby. And then of course there is that whole religious war thing.<BR/><BR/>Though, interestingly, it's not the most nasty rivalry in Scotland, which, for some reason, is Aberdeen-Rangers. Not even the fans of either club can explain that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com